Drug testing welfare recipients: What’s your take?

Poll: Should welfare recipients be tested for marijuana and other drug use?

Like any policy-promoting organization, periodically we at MPP take a step back to examine our stance on various issues to make sure that we’re accomplishing two goals. First, we want to promote the best policy possible — the one that leads to the most positive outcomes for all parties involved. Second, as an organization dependent on the generous support of readers and members like you (support our work here), we want to be responsive to our members.

For as long as I’ve been a member of the MPP team, we’ve been opposed to bills that mandate drug testing of beneficiaries of unemployment and other forms of public assistance. While our supporters have generally taken action on these alerts and seem supportive as a whole, one alert generated a number of emails in disagreement. So, we’re using the blog as a means to ask you, our supporters, what you think.

Here are some of the reasons MPP has always opposed drug testing of beneficiaries:

  • Stripping indigent marijuana users — some of whom use marijuana for medical purposes— of aid is likely to be a significantly greater harm to that person than whatever harm results from using marijuana.
  • MPP supports treating marijuana similarly to alcohol. However, beneficiaries are not and cannot be subjected to testing to see if they used alcohol in the past few weeks, while marijuana metabolites stay in one’s system for weeks. The loss of welfare or unemployment benefits is another unfair non-criminal collateral sanction imposed by states to punish individuals who choose marijuana instead of alcohol, like educational discrimination and loss of a driver’s license.
  • There’s the “slippery slope” concern. What’s next, a drug test in order to obtain a driver’s license? In order to register to vote?
  • There’s the civil liberties concern that forcing welfare recipients to submit to drug testing is unconstitutionally invasive. Indeed, a federal judge recently stopped Florida’s drug testing regime on Fourth Amendment grounds.

It’s also noteworthy that testing beneficiaries may not even accomplish its stated goals of saving money.

Still, in this time of austerity, this proposition enjoys substantial support, according to a 2011 Rasmussen poll.

So, now it’s your turn. We’d like to hear from you, our readers and supporters. What do you think of efforts to require welfare and unemployment beneficiaries to take and pass a drug test for marijuana in order to receive benefits?

I’ve set up a simple, one question poll here, and if you have comments to share you can leave them below. Feel free to forward this to others who might be interested, so we can solicit as wide a response from our activists as possible, as we are genuinely curious about what you think.

Thanks everyone, now go have a great Thanksgiving!

50 comments

1 Russ Belville { 11.22.11 at 3:51 pm }

As the son of an alcoholic/drug-addict father, the only way my mom kept us kids fed between his frequent hirings and firings was through Food Stamps and WIC.

If you’d have required him to pass drug tests for the family to get those checks, he would have failed them. Addicts don’t make rational “Gee, I’d better stop doing drugs so my wife will have grocery money for the kids” type decisions… they’re ADDICTS. We would have been most likely homeless. Without the one thread of family keeping my dad from utter self-destruction, he’d likely have jumped off that Snake River Bridge in 1980 instead of coming off the ledge and entering drug treatment.

So, that MPP would even poll this question offends me to the core.

The Project seems to have the right principles on this matter, as Mr. Rifke so eloquently illustrates in bullet points. So what is the purpose of the poll? If a plurality or majority support option #2 (test ‘em for non-marijuana drugs), does the Project then strive for only marijuana exceptions for welfare drug testing? If they support option #3 (test ‘em for any drugs), does the Project then stay mute on the issue henceforth?

If the purpose of being “curious about what you think” is simply to gauge the Project’s supporters feelings on the issue, what then is done with the results? Does this lead to an effort to better educate those misguided supporters? Does the Project take a principled stand against any welfare drug testing and let the misguided supporters choose to stay or go?

I’m genuinely curious about the Project’s response… and I hope we get to read it right here.

2 David Nichols { 11.22.11 at 4:47 pm }

I think anybody who receive government money, this includes all politicians and elected officials, should be subjected to random drug screens. what’s fair is fair. but I also believe all politicians should have a random daily breathalyzers so they dont make our laws while drunk

3 de sim { 11.22.11 at 5:37 pm }

Hate to say it Russ, but your mom could of left your dad. She would have still been good tovget the help she needed. I think we should test them people on welfare. I am against getting a hand out to begin with. You don’t work, you don’t eat. I’m so tired of feeding and giving food stamps to people that sell them for drugs. The poeplewho just don’t want to get a job.. its b.s.

4 Justin { 11.22.11 at 9:10 pm }

Drug testing under any circumstances is a bad thing given the current technology on drug testing. It’s not a deterrent to drug use, it’s discriminatory toward cannabis users given how long it stays in your system, and it’s expensive. Just another entire industry dedicated to tricking folks out of money. Anyone supporting this nonsense is either misinformed or profiting from the war on drugs.

5 Mark { 11.23.11 at 6:41 am }

Justin: Agree with you 100%.

Drug testing is an unneccessary invasion of privacy.

6 Josh { 11.23.11 at 9:26 am }

I believe they should be tested for all drugs other then mj… Simply for the fact I bust my ass at work daily and cannot go home and relax with a joint but they get free money when most of them simply could work but find is easier to just get money from our government. But at the same time there are people who drink themselves to oblivion everyday and come to work and operate machinery or big trucks but if I smoked lastnight I would wake up just as if I never did a thing… We are seriously flawed in this system… Mj shouldn’t be the focus of any drug testing it’s the cocaine, dope, meth ect that is causing the drug problems we have

7 Clarence { 11.23.11 at 9:44 am }

Florida did just that. Florida spent 160,000,000 and only 2% failed. That means the state of Florida is going to kick off enough people to save 40 to 60 thousand dollers. Now Florida has suspended the program as a huge and total fucking waste of one hundred sixty million dollers. Now why can’t they say the same about the govts waste of nearly fifty billion per year on the D.E.A.?

8 J . Taylor { 11.23.11 at 10:37 am }

No…..Waste of money, better spent on Breath testing of dunk congress.Save money by reducing DEA budget.

9 Hans { 11.23.11 at 1:09 pm }

I personally think that it’s an invasion of someones privacy. It almost like a girl on your first date barges into your room/computer room and checks to see if you look at porn.

Chyea

10 Dan Riffle, MPP { 11.23.11 at 1:16 pm }

Regarding the comments from Mr. Belville, I appreciate his willingness to share his personal experience, and his opinions on the issue at hand.

Regarding the frustration with MPP even asking the question, the point of the post is to foster a free and open debate, which I thank Mr. Belville for contributing to.

As for why we posted a poll, as the title of the blog implies, we are genuinely curious about the opinions of our membership and readers. Given our views on the matter, we will certainly not advocate for mandatory testing of recipients of government benefits, no matter what the results of the poll. However, if it turns out that a strong majority of the people who make this organization possible support this policy, then we could very well consider focusing our attention elsewhere. It is not our place to use our limited resources advocating against a policy if it is supported by the very people who make our work possible.

Again, I thank Mr. Belville for his positive contributions to the discussion, and encourage those of you reading this to do the same.

11 Justin { 11.23.11 at 2:03 pm }

Drug testing is where resources and conversation should be focused. Drug testing is a weapon of mass destruction in the war in drugs and it needs a little attention. People that support drug testing either profit from it or need to pull their head out of their ass and do a small amount of research. There has never been any indication that drug testing is effective at preventing drug use. Every study has said the opposite. If your readers aren’t smart enough to know this, you need to change that. Stop drug testing by stopping support for businesses that do it. It’s tough, but try to support businesses that do no test their employees.

12 Josh { 11.24.11 at 12:59 am }

When u find a company that doesn’t and will pay ur bills let me know cuz they don’t exist…. Every company has some sort of drug testing policy weather it be pre employment random or if u have some type of accident… N I failed a drug test witch caused me to stop smoking mj because I have bills to pay.. The problem is insurance companies require them in order to keep a companies premium down and most insurance outfits are owned by someone in government or big pharm…

13 disvet13 { 11.24.11 at 9:26 pm }

like sheep herded to the slaughter, the government is strangling the life out of us all, just so they can play with the power they have obtained by stealing all they can. they’ll find another reason why they know what’s best for you, just give them time. the florida debacle had to be one of the most glaring indications of a government official using his agenda to line his own pockets, all in the name of truth and justice. stop whining and vote for complete legalization, and don’t vote for any incumbent, or you’ll keep on getting fleeced, like the sheep you’ve all become. baaaaa

14 Chris { 11.25.11 at 2:42 am }

I’m not very good at math, but I know drug tests are expensive. I also know that less than 1% of the population regularly uses any drugs harder than cannabis. By these laws only those people would pay out of pocket (and MJ users) for their test, while we the people will have to pay for the tests of the innocent… and we’re still stuck with paying their benefits. So if you want to spend more money on those that don’t want to work then this is great! If you’re sick of spending any money on them though then this is a loss for you, and the whole country considering how you’re willing to throw away my rights. I don’t get state funds, but if you’re willing to violate any Americans rights then you’re willing to violate mine.

There are two solutions that work here, either don’t give them any more money. Or continue to give it to them without violating any rights. But you’re too angry at 1% of drug users and the rest of the cannabis smokers to see either solution as a solution. You’re answer to this problem is not to fix it but exasperate it.

Once everybody is being drug tested how will we even know that the people doing the drug tests will get an equal treatment when it comes their time? You’re offering to create another power position for people to play at. If you actually read this site ever… at all then you understand that the Government fails at EVERYTHING it keeps trying to do. So why do you propose the status-quo as a solution to a problem it didn’t solve 30 years ago?

15 Alex { 11.25.11 at 6:53 am }

I was on the fence on this one, but Chris convinced me.

I know the place I work at has a drug test policy, and then someone was caught snorting coke in the break room. No lie.

16 Joel { 11.25.11 at 11:57 am }

You have to take a drug test to get welfare.
You have to take a drug test to get a job.
Become a “them” people and stand in line to be drug tested.
Support federal drug testing and piss away humanity and the United States.

17 jd { 11.28.11 at 1:02 am }

should individuals lose rights to public-assistance because their spinal fluid and pineal glands are awash in DMT, a s0-called illicit substance produced by the body naturally? Can we all be arrested at any moment in time for we all are in possession of DMT, a so-called illicit substance produced by the body naturally?

18 David { 11.28.11 at 9:56 am }

Drugs shouldn’t be illegal. So this argument just reaks of discrimination. Discrimination of the poor. he government(CIA) lets drugs into the country. It is sold on the black market. The poor are discriminated against in job hunting so they have to sell drugs. They use that money to buy drugs generally speaking. The point is WE put them in that position. Anyone who goes after food stamps or welfare makes me sick. There is plenty of fat cat corporate waste that dwarfs the size of the money spent on the poor in this country.

19 David { 11.28.11 at 9:58 am }

If you want to save money, leave the middle east, S Korea, Germany, and Japan. That will save 1.4 trillion and make us safer as a nation.

20 Lisa { 11.29.11 at 6:02 pm }

I say that I agree with the drug testing…. but think that marijuana should be legal and left out of it…

I live in an area that many people are suspected of selling their aid for pills…. there is no proof as it is usually done descreetly… ex. for stamps the person goes and buys food from list and with copy of receipt and food go to contact and trade for x amount of pills/money…

this is the reason for the testing… kids are no longer getting the food…

21 cj { 12.02.11 at 5:09 pm }

Sure ,test for actual drugs,crack ,heroin…but not for natural substances or their metabolites.

22 A Critic { 12.06.11 at 6:11 pm }

Drug test politicians, judges, and ALL other government officials first.

23 Justin { 12.06.11 at 6:59 pm }

Some of you miss the point. Of course we would all likely prefer people receiving government assistance not use that aid to purchase anything besides the bare essentials. And if there were any indication that drug testing prevents drug use I would fully endorse its use. But the reality is every indication points to drug testing as being a very poor deterrent to drug use, in other words it simply doesn’t work. So why then would anyone endorse drug testing for any drugs regardless of their perceived dangers? The answer to that one is quite simple; because it’s a multi-billon dollar industry that is threatened by cannabis.

24 John N Florida { 12.07.11 at 11:10 am }

Florida has spent $177,000,000.00 to save $40,000.00. Is this ‘Cost Effective’? Only if your Governor owns the testing labs.

25 Jason in NY { 12.07.11 at 11:21 am }

You get a handout, you get tested. That’s how I feel. I would be 100% supportive if marijuana was not a schedule I drug and it was not necessary to test for it. If it was treated like alcohol we could simply test for all other drugs.

It’s kind of an interesting issue though because if you support testing, it needs to be for every illegal drug, including marijuana because that is what is fair under the current set of laws.

I support legalization and then random testing for hard drugs if you are on assistance. We should be giving people help, not just free handouts.

26 El VAsto Bueno { 12.07.11 at 11:23 am }

HOW EASY IT TIS, to get the poor to fight amongst themselves while the real thieves drink champagne and watch from the balcony. All the real devastating crimes occur in Washington D.C.

27 Lauryn { 12.07.11 at 11:23 am }

One, you cannot compare unemployment and welfare in a case like this. Unemployment is a benefit that you paid into while working, while welfare is straight from the taxpayer dollars. Further, unemployment is only provided when there was no fault on the individual’s part – ie. they were laid off, not fired for misconduct. Welfare, on the other hand, is strictly public money.

While I believe marijuana should be legal (1. not physically addictive and 2. not possible to over to overdose on) and therefore should not be tested for, I do think that welfare recipients should be tested occasionally for harder drugs, so that public money is not going for drugs. (Likewise, I believe that food stamps should not be able to buy soda, junkfood, or other non-nutritious foods.)

Regarding children of users, as in the first comment, children’s benefits are calculated separately from parents, and if one parent was not fit to receive benefits or therefore receive their children’s benefits, the other parent, if fit to care for the children, would receive the children’s benefits. If neither parent was fit even to receive the children’s benefits, I don’t see how they would be declared for to care for the children either.

28 Bill { 12.07.11 at 11:40 am }

The suggestion to drug test welfare recipients comes from red necks who think most welfare recipients are just lazy do nothings who sit around all day getting high. In times of economic hardship those red necks come out of the woodwork and accuse everybody in sight of trying to steal their cheese. Most beneficiaries of welfare benefits are CHILDREN. Certainly, there are those abusing the system but that is a tiny minority.

29 Brandon Murphy - PA { 12.07.11 at 11:46 am }

I agree with Russ. My girlfriend and I were just talking about this a few days ago. I say no because it’s an invasion of our privacy. I mean drug testing for employment I feel is invasion of privacy. So I don’t support drug testing in any will and never will. And I won’t support it for welfare and definitely not unemployment… We have our rights and I will fight to stick up for those rights because it’s what I believe in.

30 RonCombs { 12.07.11 at 11:49 am }

What sense does this make? I smoke one joint and my children starve.For a Fucking class B misdemeanor.

31 Barbara Campbell { 12.07.11 at 1:59 pm }

I think testing for drugs on Welfare people, should only be done if there is doubt about a person possibly using drugs. I thing also that Marijuana for medical use by people should be made available across the nation, but there must be some proof of need to use it.
Non-medical use laws should be reexamined to lessen the penalty for use of one joint.

32 Lynnette { 12.07.11 at 2:27 pm }

Drug testing is an infringement on our rights to privacy, life, liberty and all the rest of the total bull shit we’ve been force-fed. This country is so full of ridiculous laws and ways to control and take our money. Who the hell is the government to dictate who does and doesn’t get welfare based on some stupid drug test. The whole thing is nonsense, legalize pot and take my g-d tax money Obama you twit!

33 Brian { 12.07.11 at 4:00 pm }

I was in the military for 8 years and couldnt smoke due to drug tests, when I left the military I still could not smoke due to drug tests at my place of employment . If I a person who pays there tax’s and is actually a productive member of society can handle not smoking In leu of having a job that pays the bills and provides my family with health insurance then I fell that a person that is requesting free money from the government regardless of there situation can handle the same. I don’t feel that Cannabis should be a schedule I drug but it is and If I can play the Bullshit game so can they.

34 butcher9247 { 12.07.11 at 5:59 pm }

here we go again.all people who gets welfare are not all lofer.here we are on this site arguing with each other.the 2% of the population just loves this.why do think that racism is still so strong in this country?keep the whites fighting the blacks the mexican fighting the goverment to stay in a country that was once theirs divied and conquer.we sit here and bitch about poor people getting aid,have you ever heard about corp welfare?

35 Brian { 12.07.11 at 7:42 pm }

butcher9427 Race was never brought into the equation but if I apply for benefits because I can not take care of my family I would fully expect to have stipulations involved. these benefits are not a right they are a privilege that unfortunately don’t always go to people that are deserving. I dont think that everyone on welfare is a lazy ass. I have seen people on welfare buying half a sheet cake, potato chips and soda on food stamps then going out and getting in there Escalade. While I was working my ass off in the US army and coupon shopping to feed my family . I applied for food stamps and meet qualifications in every way except I had a 15,000 dollar saturn sl1. So having a reliable car to get to work was the only reason I didnt qualify. There is whole families that generation to generation receive welfare and teach there kids to get welfare checks by having more kids. No one is bitching about poor people getting aid , just think its ridiculous that people are bitching about having to be responsible for there actions or actually having to do something for the aid they are receiving. I don’t believe the government should have anything to do with my decision on using drugs. But when you are getting a free ride a piss test should be no big deal.

36 Rachel { 12.07.11 at 11:25 pm }

De sim,
I think you need to reconsider on your thoughts. I’m a single parent of 4 teenage kids. I work two jobs. I have to have assistance to feed my children. I too have to pay taxes for those who are in need. Do I buy marijuana? Yes I do. Unless you’ve been thru chemotherapy, you don’t realize how much of a help it is. So, not only am I working 2 jobs, paying taxes, receive food stamps, and medical coverage. I also purchase marijuana for my cancer. I’d rather eat or smoke it than get hooked on pills. That’s where our concern should be. Not only does it cost more to but pills, but when you have a serious injury, a Dr. Is afraid to prescribe pain killers because of the abuse. Let’s also get on the subject of cocaine and meth… Welfare has a program called workforce 1. You have to conduct this class if your unemployed. You are also limited on how long you receive assistance. The government ad well as citizens who pay taxes isn’t fair for them to have to pay for lazy people. So, do your homework before you post something you don’t have the full understanding. Because, you’ve offended a lot of people. Also, the economy sucks. You’ll be in our shoes one day. Then, you’ll understand. A lot of us are not as fortunate as you.

37 Paradoc { 12.08.11 at 7:13 am }

As a medically trained professional, engaged in the battle to REPEAL CANNABIS PROHIBITION, I can unequivocally state that:
A)-Drug tests, other then a Blood-plasma concentration
( “Tox-Screen”) are FAULTED-AND PRODUCE 50% FALSE-POSITIVES.
B) THE ONLY WAY THIS WOULD, EVEN, BE CONSTRUED AS LEGAL WOULD BE IF-ALL POLITICIANS AND LOBBYISTS BE DRUG TESTED AS THEY TOO, ARE TAKING FEDERAL MONEY.
b1)>LET POLITICIANS REALLY MEAN WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SAY: “LET’S JUST DRUG TEST ALL AFRICAN AMERICAN, HISPANIC AMERICAN AND BROKE-AMERICAN, (a new group)s- as “they have been statistically proven to be users of “illegal drugs” at a greater rate than “POLITICALLY-IMPAIRED” OR “FREE-WILL-IMPAIRED-AMERICANS”.

38 patrick { 12.08.11 at 10:46 am }

I generally don’t have much sympathy for those living off of public assistance however the real beneficiary of drug testing welfare recipients is the dirty drug testing industry who I personally would love to see destroyed. Besides I have not heard of anyone proposing testing for tobacco or alcohol use each of which alone could involve a more expensive habit than reefer. It troubles me to see how many Neanderthals here in Wyoming seem to be enamored with the idea of drug testing welfare recipients (one reason I hope not to live here much longer). We all know that the drug testing industry lobbies hard to maintain marijuana prohibition as they have a vested interest in doing so. I believe it is our duty as responsible citizens to do our part to prevent the drug testing industry from gaining any more power than it already has. Frankly, while I have contempt for many welfare recipients, ensuring that they don’t smoke weed is the least of my concerns. Besides considering that we will be footing the bill for their medical care in the form of Medicaid, tobacco and alcohol use will cost us a lot more. The only thing they are bound to go through more of if they are stoned is Food Stamps from having the munchies.

39 Brande the ex-budtender. { 12.08.11 at 12:38 pm }

As my name implies I have been employed in the medical marijuana industry on and off for the last two years. About two months ago, I was employed by one of the top dispensaries in my area. My bosses were doing something I considered wrong, so I was forced to give them an ultimatum: stop or I will walk immediately. They stood their ground, stating that it was “their” shop, and my boyfriend and I both walked. Then ten days later our landlord, who was their friend, let us know she was going to need her house back. This is when things started going really bad. We reached out to a “family friend” who owned a small construction business, and he said he would put us to work, knowing we were smokers, and not caring. So, we kept smoking.Big mistake. He strung us along for two weeks, then put me to work finding houses to flip and jobs for the company. I had two weeks to find a house that met the criteria: I found two within two days. I did both of the proposals for the investor in the next two days. Within four more days I locked down a huge contract. My boss stood it up, no call no show, because he refused to pay his workers prevailing wage, and couldn’t keep the difference on this job, like he had the others, because it was certified payroll. He ruined my name and couldn’t care less, then told me to go find more work. I quit on the 21st, and as of this writing he hasn’t paid a dime. We have gone without food. I started this at 142 lbs. I am writing this from a temp office lobby at the weight of 126. We came so close to losing our place to live, that I cried everyday for a week, and started researching shelters. I obviously quit smoking once things started looking shady, but even now, I am terrified this agency may send me to a job that requires a test(which I have been told they don’t do, which is why I am here and not at mcdonalds), and I am only 75% sure I can pass, but we can’t wait any longer, were about to run out of food again. In a week I will be clean, and then this can finally be over…I am more passionate about medical marijuana than probably, literally, anyone you know, but even I understand that the system is broken, and until the employment system catches up with the medical laws, you have to buck up and clean out. I would say that we should test only for hard drugs(which I agree with, because if they can’t pass THAT then their kids NEED to be in foster care, for their own safety), except I am proof that having dirty pee, in a system like ours, leaves you two choices: be responsible, or go on aid. I sat on my couch crying for 2 hours because I couldn’t handle the idea of going on food stamps, when I drive an ’08 explorer, and the my car is the only thing I have that I really love. I chose hunger. At least I can live in my car. The people on welfare smoking marijuana need to be drug tested, because that will force them into an employable state, at the very minimum. Their rights are not being violated: welfare is not a right. The only downside is that the drug testing industry will become very powerful, and their lobbyist presence in our laws will be the result, making it that much harder to change the real problem here, which is our anti-marijuana employment system. There is a chance they will get so powerful that they will backslide the whole movement altogether. I am very torn. However, alcohol was too, once, on its way out of prohibition, and once it started, a law stating you had to be sober for handouts wouldn’t have had much effect, I think, on the total outcome. If drug testing for welfare had already been in place long before the medical marijuana movement came along, then when the laws finally changed allowing patients to work with medication in their system, they would also change allowing government assistance with medication in their system. I think that even though these decisions are being made in a backwards order to how they SHOULD have been made, to refrain from action due to fear that the outcome of the first will effect the outcome of the second is a mistake. If we as Americans are angry enough to pass the drug-test welfare law, but too complacent to also stand up and change the employment restrictions, then we deserve what we get. The moral for the people on welfare AND the people who are afraid this will lead to loss of rights is the same: get off your ass and do something.

40 Brinna Nanda { 12.09.11 at 11:52 pm }

My take on this issue is that people who are not on welfare have to put up with drug testing at work. They naturally believe that those on welfare should share the pain.

If we want to stop drug testing of welfare recipients, then we have to address the issue of random drug tests in the workplace.

There is absolutely no reason why we should not keep our jobs without submitting some of our bodily fluids. Frankly, I call drug testing “urine voodoo” since the results are so iffy; and a good move would be to wake the general population up to the fact that random drug testing at the workplace is an unjustifiable invasion of privacy, that rarely, if ever contributes to safety in the workplace, but allows corporate control over every minute of our lives.

41 txpeloton { 12.10.11 at 8:53 pm }

Drug testing is an invasion of privacy under our Constitution. The way to view it is that rescheduling is Step 2. Step 1 is to define marijuana in a way that makes sense. This would be a good marijuana policy project.

Join the Peloton, and demand this simple definition of marijuana which actually shows respect for our Constitution:

16. The term ‘marijuana’ means all parts
of the smoke produced by the combustion
of the plant Cannabis sativa L.

For more information, google Talking Points for the Peloton.

42 william tucker { 12.11.11 at 9:39 am }

i have a good friend on foodstamps He lost his job due to the economy! He wants to work, I am on disabity retirement, and can barely get by myself, but try to give him some yard work each week not much , $40 a month. We used to work hard together and then play hard together, After he mows my yard, I have him come in for a ice tea and a few puffs of pot. We might watch a music video, until my wife gets up. But he stays until the pot wears off and then he goes home he never uses his money for drugs, but enjoys the high once a week. No harm done! To drug test him for his stamps would be a waste of money and unfair! Land of the free?

43 william tucker { 12.11.11 at 9:49 am }

MPP PLEASE READ: tELL REPS FRANK AND PAUL TO FOCUS THEIR ATTENION NOT TO LEGALIZE, BUT TO REPEAL THE 1998 ONDCP REAUTORIZATION BILL! THIS IS THE BILL THAT REQUIRES THE DRUG CZAR AND DEA TO LIE ABOUT MEDICINAL PROPERTIES OF MARIJUANA. So when asked by congress “Are you aware of any studies that show marijuana has any beneficial effects, He/She is required by law to say no, but if repealed under oath, pandoras box is open. The truth shall set us free!

44 Outofmehead { 12.14.11 at 10:04 am }

We must eliminate the federal welfare programs first before we completely legalize drugs. With freedom comes responsibility, and we should not reward the irresponsible with a subsidy. This woukl solve your fourth amendment issue completely. Regulating adults behavior runs counter to a free society, but so does taxing productivity for the purpose of subsidizing inactivity. When children are involved, they must be removed from that element, and the parents punished. Also, drug testing to get a license can be permissable because it is a privilege, while voting is a right and testing WOULD be a violation of the fourth.

45 Congress Tells States They Can Drug Test for Unemployment Benefits { 02.24.12 at 7:32 pm }

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46 Darkwoods { 02.26.12 at 5:38 pm }

I would support drug testing for wel-fare/food stamps….maybe even a breathalyzer,due to the fact so many people flip out on drinking more than any other ”drug” out there..
As far as unemployment checks,,I see that as already earned income because u worked for it and should have earned it already..
Better yet how about placing a 400$ limit on food stamps per house hold,,it ticks me off when people use food stamps to buy a buggies of steaks,(when im not on government assistance and cant afford steaks),and only allow 2 years of government assistance per family…its a helping hand not a hand out….
Its like askin a kid “What do u want to be when u grow up?” and they reply “On welfare like my mommy…”
Reduce the amount of aid given to house holds,and place their PHOTOS upon Food Stamp Cards so they Can NOT be Traded/Sold or used by anyone but the person they are provided for..
So many people have taken advantage of the system,,many stores,drug dealers and boot leggers are buying food stamp cards left and right costing the tax payers millions in fraud..
–Just remember even Dogs know when to get their young off the titie…

47 Josh { 02.29.12 at 8:35 pm }

Drug testing people on welfare would be great. I serve in the Marine Corps and every time we get back from a weekend off, a 96, or leave, we have to pass a drug test. My taxes go to providing welfare and stamps for people who misuse them.

However, drug testing is expensive and marijuana is much less harmful then alcohol, so unless we can find a cheap cheap way to do the drug tests, it’s not worth it.

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49 mark { 04.11.12 at 8:01 pm }

yes i beleve thit if sume one is going to be drug tested .lits start with the president-congressman- police-fireman-and all people thit work for federal and state agency. thit get paid with taxpayers money not just the pore!!!!! LITS START AT THE TOP

50 scott caudell { 04.30.12 at 10:05 am }

Face it, theres not enough jobs to go around. so someones going to have to be on govt assistance. i worked for 6 years of my life straight(im not that old) and paid into social security so really im getting my money back from those greedy cocksuckers. if you think people are lazy and dont want to work your dumb, if you think that YOUR money is going to pay for my weed your crazy and if you listen to ANYTHING a politician says to you, your a fucking moron and deserve to die.

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