Booze Kills. Really.
From time to time we get some flack for pointing out that as a “recreational” substance, marijuana is safer than alcohol. Anyone who doubts that claim might want to look at this new study from The Lancet, one of the world’s top medical journals.
Researchers reviewed information on deaths in three major Russian cities from 1990 to 2001 and questioned family members about the decedents’ alcohol use, reporting the astonishing finding that “in several recent years, alcohol was a cause of more than half of all Russian deaths at ages 15-54 years.” Causes of death that were greatly increased by heavy alcohol use included accidents, violence, alcohol poisoning, and several types of cancer.
We’ve said it before, but we’ll keep saying it: No drug is 100% harmless, but marijuana simply does not cause anything near the wreckage that alcohol causes, even in very heavy users.
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People need to not be so stubborn and open their eyes.
this is what all pot smokers on this planet have been saying for a long time . i can smoke a joint and drive ,walk strait,spend time with the ones we love without sleering my words,stumbling across the floor and falling down,crashing my car ,doing stupid shit ,and saying stupid shit,.that might take a toll on my life in a negative way. no one likes a slobbering drunk! i understand that folks that drink have a problem ?but they made there self that way. i have smoked pot for 20 years .and my life and my health is o.k. have severe back problems . it helps alot.. drinking only made me lose my job ,my wife and my life was devoted to paying for d.u.i tickets i have been sober for 17 years . i have never felt better. drinking man made medicine is not the way to go . plant a seed watch it grow .smoke it and i will tell you what a better life you will have. mj on the street is easy to get! try some and put down that garbage your drinking. god put this plant here for a reson .the first american flag was made from hemp. our ansestres had the right idea . i support all pot smokers of america . free our weed and our folks from jails across this land . bannish the drink of the devil .
our americans are dieing from man made trash piosoning . and they are showing our young folks that it is o.k. to drink and kill yourself with this crap .when they could be interested in more . smoke a joint and be something . smoke a joint and kick back with your freinds and think about how safe you are .no one has o.d. on pot or threw-up in the morning and sick for a week. or end your life becuase you have killed someone on the road-ways the night before. let us smoke in peace. pot makes you calm not vulger-and nasty . no one passed out and got raped smoking pot or did not no what was going on like when you drink there are a-lot of bad things that happen when someone drinks.. god bless all pot heads of the world…….. legalize-it obama thanks ex-tex.
But what about the prohibitionist? What are they going to do?
Interesting timing.
I just got back from errands and after about 30 outings with my LEAP “Cops Say Legalize Drugs. Ask Me Why” t-shirt, someone finally asked me.
It was a stock clerk. I am certain he was taken aback when I told him I thought our country would be better off if “problem drinkers” stopped drinking and starting smoking marijuana instead.
Unfortunately he had not heard of alcohol prohibition in the 1930′s so I gave him a quick description.
Sorry to hear about the Ruskies alcohol issues.
Agreed! Alcohol almost killed me and destroyed my life as well!
But, I wanted to be “Legal”. After all, I am a Hard-Working, Tax-Paying, Law-Abiding Citizen. So for several years I did not consume Cannabis. I stopped using Cannabis for one reason and one reason only – because it was illegal. So, I drank – knowing very well that I much preferred Cannabis to Alcohol. I drank – knowing that Cannabis could never ever harm me while the Alcohol was destroying me in very grand ways. I drank – until I had very severe Alcohol Addiction Problems.
Years later, when I finally broke away from the horrible Alcohol Addiction that I ended up having because of my desire “to do the Lawful thing”, I wondered why our government would want to push us down such a destructive path. Each year 100,000 die because of Alcohol use because they do not have the choice to consume Cannabis as a SAFE ALTERNATIVE.
While I am not suggesting that we Prohibit Alcohol (we know that didn’t work), why Criminalize people who cannot consume Alcohol who want to consume Cannabis as a SAFE ALTERNATIVE? It’s not like we’re talking about a Drug that would be anywhere near as harmful as Alcohol – Alcohol IS A VERY BAD DRUG.
Alcohol is 5 Times Deadlier than All Illegal Drugs Combined! How can anyone in good conscience put me in jail and take away my right to vote simply because my body can’t handle the “Leading Legal National Drug” (Alcohol). I have a Constitutional Right to relax just as you do! It is the Legal Drug (Alcohol) that is 5 Times Deadlier than All Illegal Drugs Combined – NOT Cannabis! Cannabis has never killed anyone anywhere at anytime in history!
Knowing much of the entire History of Cannabis Prohibition, I have a very hard time understanding how a 21st century mind can conceive of a problem with Cannabis at all. Safe, Therapeutic (does wonders for my anxiety/depression issues) – Cannabis makes many, many people very, very happy. Cannabis needs to be Legalized for both medicinal and recreational – Now!
My thought is that Alcohol & Tobacco use will drop significantly – (It IS the safe alternative). The savings to society in healthcare cost just from the drop in Alcohol & Tobacco use will be enormous! Cannabis will also help healthcare as it can replace many common mood-related drugs.
So, I cannot drink (I can’t physically handle that drug), so what do I do if I want to relax as a drinker would? It is totally immoral to jail me for consuming a safe drug such as Cannabis while at the same time allowing a dangerously deadly addictive drug such as Alcohol to remain legal.
Deaths per Year (Alcohol) – 100,000 (One Hundred Thousand)
Deaths per Year (Cannabis) – 0 (Zero!)
Please Legalize Cannabis – Now!
@ Joel – I lol’d at your comment.
@ Drew – Nice! I ought to get me one of those t-shirts. I find nowadays, that with all the knowledge I’ve built up over the years, that I can finally have a real conversation with just about anyone on the topic of legalization.
Well, this a fine blog after having my evening bracer of jim beam after work, medicinal purposes of course. I physically hurt with a pinched nerve in between my shoulder blades and mentally I just try not to think for thirty minutes after clocking out on my first shift job. I have a general rule of moving on to the next day mentally and letting go of grievances to the point of, “I remember it not .” The practice of my own general rule here in the case daily, allows me to forgive with a loving heart so my co-workers never have to worry about making mistakes and the fear of looseing their jobs.
My other two jobs are my own companies, office cleaning and commercial photography specializing in aerial photography. Got an aerial production coming up soon for my home town Cookeville, TN, area. I’m advertising with a flyer and teaming up with the biggest companies in town to advertise along beside me on the flyer. I’ve been debating whether to put MPP on the flyer or not. Just kidding, of course, it’s all free and MPP just has to approve of the flyer ad. I may get crazy from time to time but I never get stupid. Your welcome MPP, you’ve got free advertising here in Cookeville, TN! I’ll be in touch.
I hand deliver all flyers to be able to answer all questions at the time of delivering flyers with out ads. A part time job for me personally for about a week before I fly to get everyone’s aerial photos in Cookeville. I only do this about every five years so it’s a big thing for a small town like Cookeville, Tennessee, every five years or so.
My advertising is a test to project how many people support companies/organizations on my flyer. Wiill we get any future business out of this, of course! MPP expect to get a few more active members in the near future from my work, thank you very much! I thought you’d like the idea of free ad space on my flyer targeting about 50,000 people who regularly live or visit Cookeville in relation to their careers to their careers located in Cookeville, TN.
ACTIVIST DO A LOT OF BUSINESS ON FLYERS,
Mr. Rick Seymour
MPP Member
LEAP
NORML
Veterans For Medical Marijuana, USMC 1977-83-DI from PI
I have a feeling that president Obama is really trying to avoid these issues.
Yeah I feel very angery after a certian amount of booze. Id pick Marijuana over booze any day because its safer and has some good things to it.
Democrats and Republicans, please drink till you puke. Do it daily.
Alchohol is such a horrible substance. Recently at my brothers going away party (Joined the Navy, Ex-cannibus smoker , current supporter of medical MJ) i got in a fight with my best friend and we kicked the crap out of each other, there was a shovel involved…just bad news bears all around, I never to this day have ever seen or had a violent or negative experience with cannibus, and it horrifies me that if i intake this very LEGAL substance i could go and beat the crap out of someone i know and wake up the next morning and not even remember doing it. where i could smoke an illegal joint (like i always do every day at 5:00 pm) and wake up the next morning with pleasant dreams and an optimistic outlook on life….
just legalize it, regulate it, and tax it. its simple, cost effective and would make the whole country a friendlier place again…
Make a tee-shirt that has – MPP.ORG- on it. Leave the words cannabis and marijuana off. I can then wear them at work. I’ll take five please.
Question for anyone… and where can I find the answer.
I would like to know who donates to anti-drug ads. I have read that a lot of money comes from alcohol and tabacco. I’m sure some other “Special intrest” groups as well. I was wondering if you MPP. can find various prohibition organizations and list their hipocritical sponsers. I know it’s a lot of work… but it really could go strongly to help arguements. I’m in the reddest of red states, Utah… and you can consider me as a foot soldier whispering into every ear I come into contact with. Also with my proffession and the randoms I recieve I cannot use any drugs. However, to the people I talk to I don’t look to them like a normal “Pot head” (I would be if I could). But this would help me load up with just that much more ammunition… If we can show people who REALLY DOES profit from prohibition… then maybe we can point out the hipocracies.
Sincerely, A veteran who swore to uphold the constitution… even if it’s one earlobe at a time.
No surprise to me I seem to be closer to most people’s definition of being sober when I’m stoned. I have a screwed up back(my tailbone tucks in causing my lower back to push forward more than usual) so walking a straight line sober is nearly impossible for me. Where as stoned I’m as nimble and balanced as a cat. Drunk on the other hand does me no good on a physical level, actually makes things a bit worse when you add in the effects of alcohol on a history of multiple concussions.
you know, i drink probanly a 12 pack a week ( on a bad week) and the reason? mj prohibition i have trouble finding it and even so i end up watching over my shoulder when i do its rediculous that i can drink myself into the bathroom (puking) but im not alowed to smoke a plant that is impossible to od on we need to end this LEGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tennessee Activist. I also have upper back problems where my muscles get real tight and feel like steel bands. I snapped a muscle band helping a friend work on a roof and took a year to get over it. See a message therapist and get deep tissue done on your upper back. It has sure helped me out. I am also discovering ways to do deep tissue myself by using a softball. You should know a few things about muscles and bones before doing this. I lie on the carpet or bed and put a softball under my back and hit the trigger spots, works well for me. Stay away from your spine and shoulder bone. When you find a band of muscles put pressure on that band. I use a rolling technique to find them. When your on the muscle band use pressure, it will hurt, if it hurts too much then take your time it will be there weeks and months from now. You know its working when you feel your muscles relax and loosen up and it stops hurting. If its a good hurt your on it. If its a bad hurt stop. If your muscles are injured it won’t do any good until their healed. Most message therapist should ask you if you have recently been injured. First get familiar with message therapy and where your muscles and bones are. Also important to drink lots of water after a message. Most places should offer you bottled water after a message, if they don’t then they probably don’t know what their doing. Good luck hope something i have told you works so you can feel better.
Cliff: Great idea!
Wait, there’s still people out there that think marijuana is as destructive as alcohol?
Eric L Carter #17
Good advise!
Thank You
check out this link. its a great article, especially the last paragraph. it sounds awfully familiar.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31580590/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia
EX-TEX I ENJOY READING THESE ARTICALS AND BEING IN A CONVERSATION THAT MAY SOMEDAY HELP MYSELF AND OTHERS LIKE ME .. I HAVE 3 BULGING DISKS IN MY LOWER BACK AND 2 BULGING DISKS IN MY NECK CAN’T WORK BECAUSE I CAN NOT PASS A PISS TEST IF I HAD GOTTEN A JOB I CURRENTLY TAKE VICODIN,FENTANLY,FLEXARILE,DEPACOTE, AND OTHER MEDS THAT HELP WITH PAIN ECT. BUT I TELL YOU ALL !THE CURE IS WORSE THAN THAN THE ILLNESS SOME TIMES …DRINKING DOES NOT AGREE WITH MEDICATION AT ALL I CAN SMOKE WITH MY MEDS AND IT SEEMS TO LET ME DEAL WITH THE HARSH MEDS I TAKE TO SURVIVE. DRINKING ONLY MAKES LIFE WORSE FOR EVERYONE AROUND ME .. MY FREINDS ASK HEY TEX STOP IN FOR A BEER .. I ALWAYS SAY O.K. BUT ONLY IF THEY KNEW HOW LONG I WILL PAY FOR THAT DRINK!
Rick Seymour: Pinched nerves can be the result of extremely tight muscles. This is something I am still working on developing. As I sit in my office chair now I have a softball between my shoulder blade and on the muscle that is next to the spine I am leaning against. Also lso try lifting your arm up and put your forearm on top of your head and sway from side to side. I discover new ways to do this every so often. Can’t always affort to throw down 60 to 100 dollars for a message or bother my wife because she is busy giving messages during the day and is tired when she comes home. In my town there is a school that teaches message therapy and the students practice on the public at half the cost. Just a suggestion…….Oh and to stay on topic: this is for everyone out there; free the weed it is a safe alternative to alcohol. Drugs don’t grow out of the ground, plants do. Lets catagorize the plant as an herb with medicinal value. It is only a drug when its properties are broken down by pharmacuticals and put into pill form or prescribed by a doctor. Doctors can also prescribe vitiamins and exercise and special diets. Are either of these considerd drugs? Alcohol intake must be moderated to avoid alcohol poisoning.
IF Obama and the “Drug Czar” are saying “The discussion about legalization is not a part of the president’s vocabulary under any circumstances and it’s not a part of mine.”
Then when election time comes around or when we can we should say to them ” IF The discussion about legalization is not a part of the president’s and yours “Drug Czar” vocabulary then we the peoples saying is simply this we put you and the president into office and in our vocabulary it is called NO RE-ELECTion for either one of you two being we the people such like the victim Theresa Anthony are being imprisoned and more like hers is most likely to come from keeping marijuana illegal and in prohibition yet do you two care about the people who put you two into office? If you two do so care about the American voters who put you two into office then you two better get it into your vocabulary being it is a vast and steadily problem that will continue if it is not legalized and taxed if not at least decriminalized.” Yet alcohol kills and is legal while MJ POW’s die in jail/s for something that is safer and yet is kept illegal. What kind of people do we have in our govt.? Not all of them can be idiots at least I hope not …
We’ve said it before, but we’ll keep saying it: No drug is 100% harmless, but marijuana simply does not cause anything near the wreckage that alcohol causes, even in very heavy users The previous line from above is simply enough reason why pot needs to be legalized anything else is a unacceptable compromise.
Drew nice t shirt I have another one it says TAX ME PLEASE with a big pot leaf on it I live by the villages of florida probley the biggest retirement place in the USA about 100,000 people 80% republicans and you should see the nods I get from them they nod and smile it’s great
To Justin @ #14
There were alot of corporations that donate to Anti-Drug ads.
Those who make those anti-drug commercials are idiots when it comes to marijuana. Some of the bulk of public donations are from telephone fund raisers who claim they are from the State police department, and you will hear a police scanner in the background, they will ask for donations for helping kids to stay off drugs. Then later change to asking donations for families of slain police offiers. It all still goes to anti-drug ads. State police says that they do not solicit over telephones, but they are not stopping those fund raisers. What is really strange is that I’m sure that people are being profiled and recorded as well. Those who donate will get a sticker to put on their car.
Anti-drugs ads also comes from the tax payers as well. Federal goverment gave it the most. The anti-drugs ads is not about teaching children about drugs, it is about changing toward a police state by informing adults that times are changing. It later changed to terrorism and then the two combined as terrorism and drugs. To confuse the people politically, the term drugs really means marijuana.
Alcohol wrecks my life every time I drink it for chronic back pain.
MJ wrecks Nothing in my life, although I don’t smoke it because I’d probably be one of those to die in jail if arrested.
Saw on the television, Fox or CNN earlier today, that the Obummer Administration has decided to stop destroying the Afghans opium plants. They said it only “forced the farmers” to join forces with the War Lords.
joel, exactly anti drug really means cannabis. look at the numbers put up to stop cannabis. lets compare the numbers to stop meth, heroin, and cocaine. i think you’ll see that the numbers are very slanted against cannabis. how can they really explain why they think cannabis is such a threat that we should devote ridiculous amounts of resources towards its prohibitition hile the real drugs only get 1/3 resource to stop them.. i will tell you, low hanging fruit, easy targets. it looks like their doing something when they arrest and terrorize all the people related with cannabis. lets blow the whistle on this scam called drug war.
as a side note i saw a really funny bud light commercial on my email. won’t it be great when cannabis is legal and private companies can advertise. i wonder what those comercials will look like?
C it probably goes like this, “No stems no seeds that you don’t need Acapulco Gold is Bad Ass Weed”. —A little Cheech and Chong humor.
But seriously folks, doctors 2 to 1 recommend G13 Haze.
“Pass it on America, pass it on”
“I wish to teach the world to toke in perfect harmony…”
“Ask your doctor about Purple Skunk”
I hope this humor doesn’t backfire.
Little more than 200 yrs ago i believe 55 men and 13 colonies stated that “We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness—-That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
We are allowed the persuit of happiness if someone does something illegal and hurts others while they are persuing then they should be put away for the crime the original persuit, “Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new Government”, the government arresting over 700000 ppl for personal use possesion to me seems that someone is taking ppls freedom for their right to persue what they feel will give them happiness. If the ppl speak the government should listen if they dont our fore fathers were sure to put an escape clause, although i dont suggest all out rebellion yet, next time we go to vote it is time to make sure our voices are heard and get rid of the mighty idiots that think once elected they are there for life!!! ( One last comment be sure to know your rights don’t let them find you and give you a felony conviction because besides being a negative on your background check they also take your voice at the ballot boxes, Hmmm if we lock up all the pot heads then they cant vote against us? just a thought)
I was being silly, but suffering, being in prison, or losing property or family because of anti-marijuana laws, is not a laughing matter. When it comes to humor, prohibitionist are about as funny as Hitler.
john i love and feel your post. i also believe that it is our patriotic duty to straighten out our government. it is tyranny in which we live and the time will come when we must do what is right for our people, our country and our children. We must not fear our government, they must fear us, but the people have been molded to except what the government says and does as valid and even when they dont except it theyare too afraid of the government to band together and stand up to it. it is a sad country in which we live, where the people have no unity and no spines in which to hold their heads high. there are some do not get me wrong, but there are not enough and we are spread out so far throughout thecountry. one day i swear to you people now, the government will do something so outrageous that the people will not except it and they will not tolerate it and will be willing to give up their lives to figt it and then the people will have real freedom. this is off topic a bit i guess but when i read posts like johns quoting from the constitution things of this nature, i get so pumped up about our forefathers and what they did for us, and i get so angry that our country has become what it is now today. history repeats itself and it will now soon, there are things our government has in the works that will push people over the edge i garuntee it. free the weed and free the people!!
I am sooo SICK! of marijuana prohibition. Why can’t they just GROW UP and legalize it!
One of their main arguments is “THE KIDS”.
..So it’s okay to have alcohol commercials on tv every 10 minutes for kids to see?!
This world is backwards.
Keep up the good work Bruce! =]
700,000 People times the cost for everyone envolved.
When they take away your right to vote get a lawyer and sue. If the government removes your right to vote then you shouldn’t have to pay taxes because then you have taxation without representation. Isn’t that what the Boston Tea Party was about?
Justin (#14): The biggest funder of anti-drug ads is of course the U.S. government. After that is the Partnership for a Drug Free America. Here’s a link to their 2007 report on corporate sponsors:http://www.drugfree.org/Files/2007_Major_Partnership_Donors
We need some one like Bruce who is for the cause to run and be elected for president who is not scared to do the right thing to help end this dumb war on Americans where we can truely be free. I say when election time comes back around and if there is no one like this running then we should do a wright in vote for Bruce or some one who is with us on ending this prohibition…
Also for us to make even more head way sort of say we need to keep the pressure up and not quit fighting. If we battle together and keep the pressure on then we will previel but if we just sit around and just post on blogs alone and do not steadily keep fighting then what is likely to happen is everything we have accomplished will vanish . Together in battle we will be victorious so lets keep the fight strong and show them that our voice is not going to quiet so easily . Lets do all we can and keep it up so that every one is finely free from the prohibition . We are not just fighting for our rights but for our future generations rights as well and for that we must keep onward until we have reached our goal for freedom. Lets show them we are no slave and do have power. Lets show them our voices will not go unheard while we keep the pressure on the govt. till we are truely free . Let us stand up for our god given rights as Americans.
I will second the opinion that Obama is trying to avoid this issue. I laugh that his Drug Czar says “legalization” isn’t in either his or his presidents dictionary. But the Drug Czar mentioned “free speech” is a right that Americans have.
I suppose our Drug Czar only read the First Amendment of the Constitution… READ SOME MORE YOU MORON!
I made a mistake in not voting for Ron Paul. Freedoms, America, and nonintervention = What the America our founding fathers meant America to be.
Alcohol has been a very destuctive force in my family. When I was smoking cannabis intead of drinking, I felt it very hypocritical for some in family to look down on me cause of it. Alcohol is without a doubt so terrible on your body.Our leaders greed and selfishness is becoming more self evident daily.
Obama said in a speech to Iran, “the government must respect the rights and will of its people”. Humm… sounds like OUR leaders need to heed thier our words to me.
I keep thinking the reason its not legal(cannabis) is this.
1) Our leaders know it causes you to question the world around you. Makes you ask why.Think out of the box your in. They dont want that.
2) If prohibition of cannabis is ended by our protest and work, they know two things will happen.
A) Our legal system will under go enormuos changes. Changes they dont want.
B) They know if we are able to change this law ,they know the masses will see”YES WE CAN” and we will stop and change everything they are doing now.
Changing this law will be good change for everyday Americans and our rights of our power ,it will be a nightmare for elitists and their power.
Stop this law , Stop their ‘Rule’ over us, the American people.
SAVE OUR SOULS!
Educatio was thier key to enslaving the minds of the masses, education is also our key to waking people to their chains. Dont stop talking to those around you. EDUCATE , STOP THE HATE.
Wow Bruce! After seeing the Partnership Drug Free America website of all the corporate donors, I could understand why the prohibitionist are down right crazy. Now the monster they have created is starving. Maybe this web site can hire those cute litte unemployed girl actresses and have them tell how the DEA made her laid face down on the floor while they shot her little dog or how she lost her mother and father because they like to smoke pot together.
Of course you got to use a cute little white girls to tell the story.
That is about how cheezy the prohibitionist are.
I’ve messed up on my grammar as usual.
It is sad that some people have fallen for those commercials, or did they? Non-profit? yeah right. Those anti-drug commercials look pretty cheap.
I think Mpp should rally to end alcohol commercials on TV. No substance that has personal or societal harm should be allowed to be marketed on TV, Radio, billboards, or any other place where that intoxicant is not directly sold or consumed. In other words, alcohol marketing is only allowed at stores, bars, or event beer gardens that sell alcohol.
I like to have a few drinks myself, but my true love is the only one love and I have no problem spinning the rhetoric of drug war on alcohol, which our ritired beer bong consuming officials endorse as the only acceptable drug to society.
Never stop fighting for your rights or one day you will wake up with none!
How would you all feel about involving the very people that dont want to see marijuana become legal because it would destroy their profits/ investments?
I am not about corporate marijuana, but I would like to see some more special interest pushing for legalization. I think we should propose that Marijuana be supplied by legitament business simular to alcohol where citizens will not be able to grow for a period of 5 years unless you are a farmer with special permission granted by some approval process. After the 5 years were up, every citizens would be allowed to grow marijuana for personal use just as you have the option to buy or brew your own alcohol at home.
This would give business the time they would need to essentially dominate the market, or at least we’ll have them think. After the provisionary 5 year period, even if they could provide better marijuana than you could grow, I would still grow my own because it is more than about the drug. There is a tranquility an peacefullness in growing marijuana.
I think we should approach hemp in the same manor. Go to the leading textile and fabric producers to propose they have a provisionary period of 5 years to advance their investment in the hemp industry. Hemp is more time and cost efficient than any other man made fabric out there and the fact that it lasts longer, I would allow an increase in clothing costs to have longer lasting clothes. Hemp is also softer and holds color longer than almost every other fabric option out there.
Maybe we are going about the decriminalization and legalization the complete wrong direction. Instead of only goin to our elected officials for change, we need to go to the very businesses that fuel our economy and this war on drugs. Maybe that is the key. Give a little, take a little and ultimately we would win.
#48 Your idea sounds logical but I do not think that it would work due to the fact that the other side would not be willing to work with us due to ignorance and their will to keep America afraid that will in turn Keep our govt. violating our American rights. They have too much to lose in their eyes and are most likely not to do any thing unless they can be shown that they could get their greedy hands on majority of the profit and even then it is unlikely they would do so . Why ? There ignorant and do not care about any one except their own agenda and profit over the American people. Hence we need to keep fighting as we are doing to achieve freedom how ever it would be great if we all could get along but will it ever happen? Most likely not but hey I may be wrong and it may work but at what cost?
I contacted the ONDCP about legalizing cannabis. here was their reply:
Thank you for contacting ONDCP. Marijuana is a dangerous drug and remains in Schedule I of theControlled Substances Act. The President opposes marijuanalegalization as does ONDCP Director Kerlikowske. The following resource and Web site provide information aboutmarijuana and why it remains a controlled substance: Denial of Marijuana Reschedulinghttp://frwebgate3.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/TEXTgate.cgi?WAISdocID=97324928153+0+1+0&WAISaction=retrieve Speaking Out Against Drug Legalizationhttp://www.dea.gov/demand/speakout/index.html If you would like to view information about marijuana and itseffects, please visit the following Web sites: The DEA Position on Marijuanahttp://www.dea.gov/marijuana_position.html Marijuana Myths & Facts: The Truth Behind 10 Popular Misperceptionshttp://www.ncjrs.gov/ondcppubs/publications/pdf/marijuana_myths_facts.pdf What Americans Need to Know About Marijuanahttp://www.ncjrs.gov/ondcppubs/publications/pdf/mj_rev.pdf Marijuana Abuse Research Reporthttp://www.drugabuse.gov/ResearchReports/Marijuana/default.html Marijuana Facts and Figureshttp://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/drugfact/marijuana/index.html Marijuana-Info.orghttp://www.marijuana-info.org/ Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you, SeritaContent SpecialistONDCP Clearinghousehttp://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov
Well, it is time for US Americans… to take our country back, we r the ones in control… the Goverment is the people that have to listen to us.. so lets take back our country nd make our goverment follow our demands again. =)
just remember… the people who block and take away GODS stuff … r gonna end up in HELL, god says ppl who take control of gods stuff r EVIL nd demons. THEy r like lil DEVILS runnin around killin ppl thats our goverment.
The ONDCP know shit they say marijuana is dangerous yet it has been proven to be more safer than alcohol and tobacco this being said if marijuana is so dangerous then why is alcohol and tobacco legal when alcohol and tobacco kills people daily and is a known fact that it is more harm full than marijuana? The ONDCP is a bunch of BS idiots and yet they think they will win this war against us Americans with out a huge fight…..LOL yea right and it might snow in the salt flats….. I say let us continue to fight for our rights as Americans and turn around this in just that we are faced with. Marijuana should never been marked off as illegal in the first place and we need to now fight more than ever to end this stupid prohibition… Lets show them we vast in numbers and can make a difference while united…. And if need be lets do what we must through election time by voting in to office those who are on our side…. I say vote for some one who WILL not be bullied around who is for the cause to end prohibition and who is not afraid to take action against this in just against all Americans…. Our time to make a difference is NOW!!! We shall win and shall retrieve our rights as Americans if we stand together and do stuff to make sure we are heard and that this in just is finally put to an end.
“leaglize tax and regulate?” The govt cant even regulate themselves, why in the hell would you want some beauracrat telling you how strong your weed can be before its legal??? DECRIMINALIZE it, period. You dont want the govt regulating, there’s nothing to regulate as far as MJ is concerned…
I can say this: “someone very close to me” has smoked pot almost every day for the last 45 years. During this time he has received 5-6 traffic tickets, and has been involved in 3-4 traffic accidents, none of which were his fault.
It is interesting to note that of those 8-10 incidents in 45 years, he was NOT stoned in a single case! What are the odds that pot is causing accidents, when a person is stoned 90% of the time while driving, yet every single case of tickets or accidents occurs while he is straight? NO ONE has ever yet demonstrated that pot has ever caused a single automobile accident.
The fact is that, in addition to causing a certain amount of intoxication, and perhaps a slightly reduced reaction time, pot also helps one to concentrate better on a routine activity like driving, and makes one more cautious and careful. The fact is that alcohol makes one reckless and aggressive, all the while wrecking one’s coordination and judgment. The effects of marijuana intoxication are far less of a threat to public health or safety than alcohol ever can be.
Far from pot being a terrible curse, society would positively benefit, in terms of both public health and safety, if even some of us who like to catch a little buzz once in a while, smoked a little pot instead of inhaling martinis!
On legalization not “being the the vocabulary of either Obama or DC Kerlikowske,” I have a theory. I believe that the real difficulty in deciding what to do with drug policy is economic. How can they end the drug war, while at the same time – keep the cash flowing? The key is that marijuana and other drug prohibition has become very profitable. The problem with simple legalization is that it would turn off the tap! So they hedge, and they squirm, trying to devise strategies to reduce the cost of prohibition, while still keeping the industry alive. So they talk about regulation, taxation and drug treatment, to be administered whether needed or not. ANYTHING to keep users on the hook to do more than their share to bail out the economy and make capitalists (and their underlings) rich. There can be little doubt that simple legalization would eliminate most of the social problems associated with marijuana use, namely – prohibition itself.
The huge scale of the anti-drug establishment, so far out of proportion to any harm being produced, points up the absurdity, and the dishonesty, of the entire drug war establishment.
i was wondering to day how much the patriot act has influenced the arrests and persecution of americans in reguards to cannabis use and cultivation. i really wish we could find out how may people they listened to and then busted for nothing more then a few pounds of cannabis. i have a feeling the goverment has probably done that a lot.
FDA Panel: Maximum Dose for Tylenol, Pain Relievers Should be Reduced to Curb Deadly Overdoses
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529578,00.html
So the FDA is now worried about Tylenol overdoses yet will stand up and say marijuana can’t be a medicine even though it has never once caused a death due to overdose?
I just wanted to tell all of you that I am donating another $10 right after I post this because I am fed up. Every time Obama askes for another donation to help one of his causes, I am now giving that money I would give to his cause to MPP.org instead.
I gave Obama $25 torward his election and he laughed in not only my face for decriminalization and legalization, but the whole community of people who believe our marijuana laws are unjust. I will not live my life in fear.
We will see who wins and I hope all you pledge to MPP.org when and where you can and make a point to our elected officials that we will not go away.
I will fight for marijuana legalization until my last breath!
C#57: While it is probably near impossible to tell how often the surveillance powers granted by the Patriot Act have been used in marijuana prosecutions (on or off the books), there are other ways it has been used to target marijuana users.
Jake Mitchell, the drummer for Austin, TX-based rock band The Boxing Lesson, was arrested in 2006 for growing a small amount of marijuana. Under the Patriot Act, he was labelled a “narco-terrorist” and sentenced to 60 months in federal prison. The same provision allowed his wife to be charged for the violation of not reporting her husband’s activity to federal authorities. She was sentenced to 6 months.
I’m sure this is not the only time this has happened to people who are not tied to DTO’s or terrorist cells in any way.
With all those deaths attributed to alcohol, should we start arresting those that grow grapes for wine?? Of course not!!
Cannabis prohibition is discriminatory, senseless, irrational and destroying the lives of Americans and their families everyday.
We must all do our part to Re-Educate and Re-Inform the public about the truths based on fact and science, and refute the lies and propaganda that was taught to generations before.
Please support HR2835 to protect medical patients from Federal Prosecution.
We know it’s a sad situation when we have to protect ourselves from our own government, but that’s the reality of those who are presently suffering and in need.
Thank you for your support.
I am a chronic pain patient on a scripted dose of 480mg of Oxycontin,which is equal to a little more than a gram of pure Heroin.I also vomit several times a day due to the opiates.I am also a diabetic.I went from 410lbs to 234lbs in 2 years of puking my brains out.My Pain Doc scripted me Marinol after trying everything from Phenergan to Zofran w/o any relief.Trouble is when your vomiting you cannot swallow a pill and its pure THC which makes me paranoid.If I use plain old pot I get relief from pain,an ability to get 3 or 4 hours of sleep and eat dinner and keep it down.I am in agony w/o marijuana.Before this(being disabled) I worked full time as Special Ed Aide and Corrections officer at world famous SingSing State Prison.So I have paid my dues.Its time all of us get togethyer and get these bills passed.The Govt cannot possibly ignore all of us.
big daddy, Wanna bet they cant ignore us? They ignore the american people everyday. They’ll continue to do so.
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I’ve been on disability for 8yr’s w/back pain from two accidents and the only thing that really helps me is MJ.Although I havn’t smoked in over 2months due to financial problems.It helped me have my appeitite back since I had lost weight.I can’t see why the government doesn’t see the $ potential.
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