Comments on: Better Late Than Never: Marijuana/Schizophrenia Link Questioned http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/ Marijuana Policy Project Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:35:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Clarence http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11159 Clarence Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:17:50 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11159 22, It is not about sitting and doing nothing. It is about money! Before hemp and cannabis was illegle there was thousands of products made from hemp. The textile industry would be almost put out of business if hemp was to be legal again. Drug companies would loose 50 to eighty percent of it's profits. The D.E.A. would loose millions in C.A.M.P. funding. The prison population would drop around 40 percent. The prison gurads would have to look for a real job. Prisons would close. Crime rates would drop. Cops would be fired. No more fines to support the city, county and state. No more taking of my or anyone else's property for auctions. The only question left is , What the hell is wrong with that? Oh yea, all those people and big companies donate billions to keep me opressed and I do not have billions of dollers to donate to politions. I just donated to the bastards by way of a fine for my cannabis use. 22, It is not about sitting and doing nothing. It is about money! Before hemp and cannabis was illegle there was thousands of products made from hemp. The textile industry would be almost put out of business if hemp was to be legal again. Drug companies would loose 50 to eighty percent of it’s profits. The D.E.A. would loose millions in C.A.M.P. funding. The prison population would drop around 40 percent. The prison gurads would have to look for a real job. Prisons would close. Crime rates would drop. Cops would be fired. No more fines to support the city, county and state. No more taking of my or anyone else’s property for auctions. The only question left is , What the hell is wrong with that? Oh yea, all those people and big companies donate billions to keep me opressed and I do not have billions of dollers to donate to politions. I just donated to the bastards by way of a fine for my cannabis use.

]]> By: smoking for 43 years now http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11098 smoking for 43 years now Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:47:23 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11098 I firmly believe that our representatives fear that if we legalize pot, that the economy will worsen because the smokers will get high and watch music videos all day long and miss work putting our country in jeopardy of reducing our G.N.P I firmly believe that our representatives fear that if we legalize pot, that the economy will worsen because the smokers will get high and watch music videos all day long and miss work putting our country in jeopardy of reducing our G.N.P

]]> By: DarthNole http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11070 DarthNole Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:24:20 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11070 BTW - - With the National Healthcare Debate raging on... I think #2 is extremely key to getting Medical Marijuana Laws passed... why the hypocracy? It's NOT OK to have Government run healthcare but it's OK to have the Federal Government control what doctors prescribe to their patients??? I just don't get it!!! BTW – - With the National Healthcare Debate raging on… I think #2 is extremely key to getting Medical Marijuana Laws passed… why the hypocracy? It’s NOT OK to have Government run healthcare but it’s OK to have the Federal Government control what doctors prescribe to their patients??? I just don’t get it!!!

]]> By: DarthNole http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11069 DarthNole Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:20:36 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11069 Mike the cause is being stonewalled by the Republican Party... for what reason I still don't understand. Unfortunately I am finding that more and more Republicans do not follow the core beliefs of the party. Here are three examples of core values that I was taught were fundamental to the Republican Party: 1) Smaller government: —- Why are we spending all this money on an unwinnable war (this war on Marijuana)? The DEA continues to expand and use up vital resources with absolutely no possibility of accomplishing their stated goal (to eradicate marijuana entirely). Heck they aren't even putting a dent in the supply chain and use continues to rise - up some 1200% since 1972 when the "war" started) 2) State’s Rights: —- Why are we spending Federal dollars to arrest and prosecute people that are clearly following their State's laws? —- Why is the Federal Government dictating how an individual State handles its medical decisions? Should this not be the decision of the State and its doctors? Aren't we saying the same thing when it comes to the current debate on National Healthcare (healthcare decisions should be made between the patient and the doctor not by the Federal Government)? 3) Strict Constitutionalists (interpret the Constitution based on what is actually written, not what you think the founding fathers meant): —- The Preamble to the Constitution says that we are to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”…. Liberty is the “condition in which an individual has the right to act according to his or her own will.” Why is it that we have Federal Laws prohibiting what I can do with my own body??? Personally I think these are key points that our Republican leaders aren’t paying attention to. They are too caught up in power and control to think about their core beliefs and how this issue truly affects those beliefs. They’ll say that don’t want to look soft on crime, but they just have to realize that marijuana possession is only a crime because the Federal Government says so. Personally I believe that in order for a “Crime” to be committed you must do something that affects someone else or that has potential to affect another person. My smoking marijuana does not rise to that level and therefore should not be considered a crime. You can continue to believe that those that use marijuana are contributing to the violent drug trade and thus are affecting others or you can use your rationale thought and realize that Prohibition is what is causing the violence not the drug itself. Allowing to be sold freely in REGULATED shops would eliminate the underground market. 60-70% of all of the Mexican Drug Cartels money comes from the trafficking in Marijuana into the US. That's a big chunk of money that will be lost that helps them to traffic in other illicit activities. I think these are somee points that need to be talked about in the media and in letters to your Representatives (that are Republican). I hope that all of us here on MPP will take the time to write their Congressmen and ask them about these ideals and why they aren't being followed. I can't wait to see their responses!!! Mike the cause is being stonewalled by the Republican Party… for what reason I still don’t understand.

Unfortunately I am finding that more and more Republicans do not follow the core beliefs of the party.

Here are three examples of core values that I was taught were fundamental to the Republican Party:

1) Smaller government:
—- Why are we spending all this money on an unwinnable war (this war on Marijuana)? The DEA continues to expand and use up vital resources with absolutely no possibility of accomplishing their stated goal (to eradicate marijuana entirely). Heck they aren’t even putting a dent in the supply chain and use continues to rise – up some 1200% since 1972 when the “war” started)
2) State’s Rights:
—- Why are we spending Federal dollars to arrest and prosecute people that are clearly following their State’s laws?
—- Why is the Federal Government dictating how an individual State handles its medical decisions? Should this not be the decision of the State and its doctors? Aren’t we saying the same thing when it comes to the current debate on National Healthcare (healthcare decisions should be made between the patient and the doctor not by the Federal Government)?

3) Strict Constitutionalists (interpret the Constitution based on what is actually written, not what you think the founding fathers meant):
—- The Preamble to the Constitution says that we are to “secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity”….
Liberty is the “condition in which an individual has the right to act according to his or her own will.” Why is it that we have Federal Laws prohibiting what I can do with my own body???

Personally I think these are key points that our Republican leaders aren’t paying attention to. They are too caught up in power and control to think about their core beliefs and how this issue truly affects those beliefs. They’ll say that don’t want to look soft on crime, but they just have to realize that marijuana possession is only a crime because the Federal Government says so. Personally I believe that in order for a “Crime” to be committed you must do something that affects someone else or that has potential to affect another person. My smoking marijuana does not rise to that level and therefore should not be considered a crime. You can continue to believe that those that use marijuana are contributing to the violent drug trade and thus are affecting others or you can use your rationale thought and realize that Prohibition is what is causing the violence not the drug itself. Allowing to be sold freely in REGULATED shops would eliminate the underground market. 60-70% of all of the Mexican Drug Cartels money comes from the trafficking in Marijuana into the US. That’s a big chunk of money that will be lost that helps them to traffic in other illicit activities.

I think these are somee points that need to be talked about in the media and in letters to your Representatives (that are Republican). I hope that all of us here on MPP will take the time to write their Congressmen and ask them about these ideals and why they aren’t being followed. I can’t wait to see their responses!!!

]]> By: Richard Savary http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11048 Richard Savary Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:35:24 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11048 It seems that a LOT of information regarding marijuana is "a bit too complicated for many in the media." Not to mention the government. But isn't the real problem that a lot of people aren't listening? They've perceived that pot isn't a big issue (and isn't very dangerous), but it's being stonewalled by power, and that the issue isn't going anywhere, i.e. boring. Fortunately, I have cause to hope that it IS going somewhere. Isn't it funny that people who are perceived as being wild and crazy hippies, are really mostly down to Earth, quiet, productive people? Oh, check out today's Peanuts cartoon. It's about Peanuts, I think, who's hiding under a bed, refusing to go to school. He explains that "I've known too many people who went to kindergarten who never amounted to anything." Kind of puts "anti-motivational syndrome" to rest, doesn't it? Why do I think the cause is moving forward? Because of the numbers of bills being introduced, everywhere, slowly chipping away at prohibition, and because of the now-that-we-have-internet support it's getting. Even our traitor president has to admit that legalization is the most popular topic on his web site (keep it up). Sooner or later it will hit some of them that pot is not very harmful, but that prohibition IS, and "ping!" they'll suddenly get the picture. States will start legalizing it, and there will be on-going conflicts with the feds, and eventually, and reluctantly, the feds will come around. I just hope it doesn't take 20 years, because if so, I may not be around to enjoy it. Imagine what it's going to be like: you'll go to a store, and buy an ounce of the finest indoor sativa/indica blend, for maybe $50, and if your like me, it'll last you months. You'll be free to toke in your own back yard, and who cares who smells the smoke! Ah, LIBERTY! Imagine that? in America! It seems that a LOT of information regarding marijuana is “a bit too complicated for many in the media.” Not to mention the government. But isn’t the real problem that a lot of people aren’t listening? They’ve perceived that pot isn’t a big issue (and isn’t very dangerous), but it’s being stonewalled by power, and that the issue isn’t going anywhere, i.e. boring. Fortunately, I have cause to hope that it IS going somewhere.

Isn’t it funny that people who are perceived as being wild and crazy hippies, are really mostly down to Earth, quiet, productive people?

Oh, check out today’s Peanuts cartoon. It’s about Peanuts, I think, who’s hiding under a bed, refusing to go to school. He explains that “I’ve known too many people who went to kindergarten who never amounted to anything.” Kind of puts “anti-motivational syndrome” to rest, doesn’t it?

Why do I think the cause is moving forward? Because of the numbers of bills being introduced, everywhere, slowly chipping away at prohibition, and because of the now-that-we-have-internet support it’s getting. Even our traitor president has to admit that legalization is the most popular topic on his web site (keep it up).

Sooner or later it will hit some of them that pot is not very harmful, but that prohibition IS, and “ping!” they’ll suddenly get the picture. States will start legalizing it, and there will be on-going conflicts with the feds, and eventually, and reluctantly, the feds will come around. I just hope it doesn’t take 20 years, because if so, I may not be around to enjoy it.

Imagine what it’s going to be like: you’ll go to a store, and buy an ounce of the finest indoor sativa/indica blend, for maybe $50, and if your like me, it’ll last you months. You’ll be free to toke in your own back yard, and who cares who smells the smoke!

Ah, LIBERTY! Imagine that? in America!

]]> By: Mike Stroup http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11033 Mike Stroup Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:19:34 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11033 Just because a rooster crows every morning before the sun comes up, does not mean that if you kill the rooster the sun will not rise again. I have forgotten more about how to conduct viable research than some prohibition propagandists know based on their so-called "research" conclusions. Rather or not cannabis consumption causes ill effects is not the issue. The issue is government's legitimate role in attempting to control such substances, the responsible adult consumption of which, does not violate the rightful freedom and liberty of another citizen. In a free country, the government has the duty and obligation to make sure such substances are freely available. In a police state, the government will try and regulate such substances, and all other conduct, to maximize benefit to the state as dictated by a religious inspired, political and powered money elite. I am an American patriot and believe in God's will for people to live in freedom with liberty as acknowledged and cited in the Constitution of the United States. I do not want to live in the most free country on earth. I want to live in a free country. Just because a rooster crows every morning before the sun comes up, does not mean that if you kill the rooster the sun will not rise again. I have forgotten more about how to conduct viable research than some prohibition propagandists know based on their so-called “research” conclusions. Rather or not cannabis consumption causes ill effects is not the issue. The issue is government’s legitimate role in attempting to control such substances, the responsible adult consumption of which, does not violate the rightful freedom and liberty of another citizen. In a free country, the government has the duty and obligation to make sure such substances are freely available. In a police state, the government will try and regulate such substances, and all other conduct, to maximize benefit to the state as dictated by a religious inspired, political and powered money elite. I am an American patriot and believe in God’s will for people to live in freedom with liberty as acknowledged and cited in the Constitution of the United States. I do not want to live in the most free country on earth. I want to live in a free country.

]]> By: Clarence http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11028 Clarence Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:38:49 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11028 I am sure there has been a complete study on the effects of cannabis. The gov. does nothing without keeping detailed records. The reason we have not been told about it is there is NO adverse effects. That is not good for big pharma. With no side effects and no addictive properties cannabis is the SAFEST drug on the planet. Big pharma cannot allow a safe, non toxic harmless drug to be available to the public with out a huge fight. Two billion in fines is nothing to the billions they get from pushing bad, addictive, harmful drug that kill. I wish they took their own drugs so they will die and leave us harmless pot smokers alone. This country is turning from free to a dictatorship and we must stop this in the next election. ALL AMERICANS must vote next election and fire the ones against gods herb. I am sure there has been a complete study on the effects of cannabis. The gov. does nothing without keeping detailed records. The reason we have not been told about it is there is NO adverse effects. That is not good for big pharma. With no side effects and no addictive properties cannabis is the SAFEST drug on the planet. Big pharma cannot allow a safe, non toxic harmless drug to be available to the public with out a huge fight. Two billion in fines is nothing to the billions they get from pushing bad, addictive, harmful drug that kill. I wish they took their own drugs so they will die and leave us harmless pot smokers alone. This country is turning from free to a dictatorship and we must stop this in the next election. ALL AMERICANS must vote next election and fire the ones against gods herb.

]]> By: DarthNole http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11013 DarthNole Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:27:11 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11013 With 31 years of distributing Medical Marijuana you would think that the US Government would have ONE long-term clinical study on the effects of marijuana..... So tell me again why this hasn't been done? Maybe because if they actually studied the substance they would have a paper trail showing the past 72 years of lies and BS propaganda!!! It sure would be nice to hear from a high level Government Official on why clinical studies were NEVER performed on the IND patients. With 31 years of distributing Medical Marijuana you would think that the US Government would have ONE long-term clinical study on the effects of marijuana….. So tell me again why this hasn’t been done?

Maybe because if they actually studied the substance they would have a paper trail showing the past 72 years of lies and BS propaganda!!!

It sure would be nice to hear from a high level Government Official on why clinical studies were NEVER performed on the IND patients.

]]> By: lost hope http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11011 lost hope Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:23:28 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11011 as one i am just a voice, together we are a force. a justifiable force that demands to be heard. as one i am just a voice, together we are a force. a justifiable force that demands to be heard.

]]> By: lost hope http://blog.mpp.org/research/better-late-than-never-marijuanaschizophrenia-link-questioned/09012009/comment-page-1/#comment-11010 lost hope Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:21:01 +0000 http://blog.mpp.org/?p=1384#comment-11010 why does not ALL the marijuana/cannabis organizations in the US work TOGETHER. where are all the donations and funds from the proactive supporters go to? why does not ALL the marijuana/cannabis organizations in the US work TOGETHER. where are all the donations and funds from the proactive supporters go to?

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